You can view my most current family tree here Litz and Kroening Families
MT DNA T1a1 Contributor Hulda Kroening and mother Louise Zabel
Y DNA J1e (New Names J1c3 and J P58) Contributor Robert Litz (mother's surname) Father Unknown (FTDNA also shows male line carries Cohan Modal Haplotype)
The background of our family has been a several year adventure for me. It started in 1972 when I was in the Military, waiting for my security clearance. I was held back from the rest of the class when the security portion of training commenced. Weeks later, my School Sergeant Major informed me I was on the next course. He commented that being a White Russian was acceptable. I asked a few questions at that time of dad and a couple of uncles and didn’t get much info. They all said we were German, and left it at that, except Richard, he said we were Polish from the Warsaw area (turns out he was right.)
Now that I’m older, and have some time on my hands having retired, I decided to start my quest. Thankfully technology has made things a “little” easier, however, family history research, especially in
I have spent countless hours scouring microfilm, writing letters for government documents, and countless hours waiting for my dial up connection to produce an image on my computer of a record, only to find it is the wrong family. I have contacted our parents few living cousins and cousins of those cousins that although not related by blood had some knowledge of the family past.
In all of this there have been some successes, and some failures. I am most pleased that I have located Grandfather Robert Litz’s (Opa’s) birth record. This feat only took about a month of microfilm hunting, a quick lesson in Russian Cyrillic, and the help of a wonderful man in the Ukraine on a genealogy list I belong to, to translate the document.
Most of the stories I’ve heard of Opa are from his time here in
Grandmother Hulda Kroening’s (Oma’s) history, although more of her family immigrated here, is vague, but her some of her brothers’ information is available. I have had to do considerable research and speculating to find the documentation to put together a history of her family and background.
The stories I heard about Robert Litz's past and history came from Uncle Albert and Uncle Gordon, Cousin Ben Kraning, Ben’s cousins Agatha Tolack (Gessie), Pat Gessie, Kurt Guttman, Ben’s niece Nellie Fliegerts daughter Doreen, Maureen Hamilton, Mary Wasylenko Ferdinand's daughter and his great grand daughter Susan Izzard. Since I began this search, many of these informants have passed away, and I will miss the opportunity to converse with them further, but am eternally grateful that I was able to speak with them, hear their stories, and connect with the past..
The following pages are part of the history of the Litz Family that came to Canada from Russia in 1904, some of their ancestors and their descendants.
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MT DNA T1a1
Y DNA J1e (New Names J1c3 and J P58)
Although I have only been able to find my great grandparents names, there are several names in various records that match with our Kroening/Litz/Zabel families from the same places. I cannot prove if they are related yet, but if you find that these names and places are part of your ancestry, and we are DNA cousins, there's a good probability that that is the connection.
These names are:
|Kroening St Petersburg records||Kroening EWZ Records|
|Hartmann, Luise||Prussia/Heimthal||Rosner||Nowa Rudnja|
|Stockmann, Julianne||Karolinchen aka Karlufka|
|Litz St Petersburg Records||Litz EWZ Records|
|Hoeger||Friedenstal||Hergert||Eigenfeld, Gebiet Krasnodar|
|Nikkel||Fere Champenoise||Klein||Neuburg, Odessa|
|Stadel||Arzis||Otto||Neuburg, Geb. Odessa|
|Zabel St Petersburg Records||Zabel EWZ Records|
|Meede or Mude||Liski||Schadrow||Mitau|
|Schulz||Wissowitz (Wjasowez ?)|
This is the information that has eluded me and I am still looking for:
Great Grandmother Wilhelmina Litz born abt 1855 poss Lomza, who are her people?
Great Grandparents Christian Kroening and Louise Zabel, where did they come from and who are their people?
Great Aunt ? Kroening married to Rudolph Yessie, what is her name and where did she die?
Great Aunts and Uncles Kroening Family that stayed in the "old country", who are they and what was their fate?
Nov 2013: Info for DNA Relatives....names and places of possible connections
Aug 2013: HUGE!!! DNA tested by 23andMe results are in... See LITZ NAME AND IT'S PEOPLE
Jan 2011: New Photo Albums added
Aug 7, 2010: Merged pages Welcome and Updates. Combined pages now Home page
July 23, 2010: the Whats with the Radons page has been rewritten for an easier read, with individual bio's and facts.
Jun 5, 2010..Ship and arrival information for Lydia Radons Yessie, Gerhard Yessie and Zelma Yessie. Info entered on Yessie Family Page.
Oct 27, 2009, New photo album R Litz and Sons from the early years, shown in both Photos and under Robert.
Jun 27, 2009 New Pages added on my other branches.
My Swedish side, Hanson's and Wahlgren's
and his Polish Family, Powroznik, Dukacz, Woytas, Sopel, Kobialko
Jan 18, 2009 Robert Litz, Christian Kroening and Ferdinand Kroening 1916 Census info with links.
July 19, 2008 Photo album moved to Welcome page, photos added
July 3, 2008, updates on Kroening, Yessie and Radons.
It would be good to note here that Litz and Lic are variations of the same (in Polish c is pronounced at tz) as are Litzki and Litzka (son of Litz, daughter of Litz)
Russia/Ukraine: Zhitomir, Pulin, Volhynia
Poland: Lomza, Warsaw, Sulimin, Richtoff, Bremberg
Canada: Winnipeg, Beausejour
An interesting site that shows the Litz's name distribution in Poland
Type Litz in the box Mapa nazwisk and then click szukaj (search) (congrats, you've just passed your first Polish lesson). If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you will also see flags of Switzerland, Germany, and if you click on those, it will also show the distribution of our last name in those countries....Isn't Genealogy fun!! I had a great time on this site, searching other names from my tree in these countries.
and just as a curiosity, here is the distribution of our name in the USA. Who are all these Litz's?
If you are a visitor and think you are related check out the family treehttp://litz.tribalpages.com
There is also an extensive tree on Ancestry.com, it is private but if you contact me, I can grant you access to it.This tree also carries the census information, immigration info etc.
or my other site with links to the non Russian families from my other side.
The Hansson Family is from the North Eastern part of Sweden, now Gastrickland, Hofors, Gavle. and the Wahlgren family (other names Nilsdotter, Modig) from Höör, Langstorp, Skane.
The Powrozniks from Lukawiec, Poland also the families Woytas, Sopel, Dukacz and many more.
New Machar, Aberdeenshire being the prime area for this Simpson Family, other names Cowie from Premnay, Lawson from Peterhead and Foveran, Davie from New Deer.